{"id":36224,"date":"2025-09-05T06:23:40","date_gmt":"2025-09-05T06:23:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/youzum.net\/false-sense-of-security-why-probing-based-malicious-input-detection-fails-to-generalize\/"},"modified":"2025-09-05T06:23:40","modified_gmt":"2025-09-05T06:23:40","slug":"false-sense-of-security-why-probing-based-malicious-input-detection-fails-to-generalize","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/youzum.net\/ja\/false-sense-of-security-why-probing-based-malicious-input-detection-fails-to-generalize\/","title":{"rendered":"False Sense of Security: Why Probing-based Malicious Input Detection Fails to Generalize"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>arXiv:2509.03888v1 Announce Type: new<br \/>\nAbstract: Large Language Models (LLMs) can comply with harmful instructions, raising serious safety concerns despite their impressive capabilities. Recent work has leveraged probing-based approaches to study the separability of malicious and benign inputs in LLMs&#8217; internal representations, and researchers have proposed using such probing methods for safety detection. We systematically re-examine this paradigm. Motivated by poor out-of-distribution performance, we hypothesize that probes learn superficial patterns rather than semantic harmfulness. Through controlled experiments, we confirm this hypothesis and identify the specific patterns learned: instructional patterns and trigger words. Our investigation follows a systematic approach, progressing from demonstrating comparable performance of simple n-gram methods, to controlled experiments with semantically cleaned datasets, to detailed analysis of pattern dependencies. These results reveal a false sense of security around current probing-based approaches and highlight the need to redesign both models and evaluation protocols, for which we provide further discussions in the hope of suggesting responsible further research in this direction. We have open-sourced the project at https:\/\/github.com\/WangCheng0116\/Why-Probe-Fails.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>arXiv:2509.03888v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: Large Language Models (LLMs) can comply with harmful instructions, raising serious safety concerns despite their impressive capabilities. Recent work has leveraged probing-based approaches to study the separability of malicious and benign inputs in LLMs&#8217; internal representations, and researchers have proposed using such probing methods for safety detection. We systematically re-examine this paradigm. 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